Abbey Rapids 2/3/4sc Double - Blatant Plug

Neil H · Post by **Neil H** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:12 pm

are results on website gonna be replaced?

Neil Footitt · Post by **Neil Footitt** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:07 pm

katonas, glad to hear that things are progressing well and hope that the injury front repairs well with your dad.

I know only too well how a simple fall can develop into a major injury, a speed wobble at HPP, developed into a left arm broken in four places with two plates and 15 screws to hold it all together. Three months with reduced time and responsibilities at work ! All sorted now though.

Its amazing how much help you find being offered by the paddling fraternity.

oldschool · Post by **oldschool** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:01 pm

errm, no not unless someone can explain why the points are wrong! I sure that the formulas follow what the year book says and i've double checked them in my head and still come up with the same points. The only way i can see you'd get those points is if someone competing had already been promoted or was ineligable but i'm not sure how i'm supposed to check that. anyway sorry if i am wrong but no i'm not planning on redoing them (mainly because they come out the same!) Jim informs me that there is some standard programme for results now but as i don't have it yet it will have to wait for next years event (if i have time to run it with the increasing paperwork organisers are lumbered with but that will be another thread if i can find the time!)

Neil H · Post by **Neil H** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:20 pm

understand that. Sorry I raised it I only did in case people use it as a point of reference to look back on.

Has this happened before anywhere i.e. are any results on web obsolete

Neil H · Post by **Neil H** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:48 pm

Neil Footitt wrote:speed wobble at HPP ....... reduced time and responsibilities

Speed wobble? Who'd have thought it. I never thought of speed being in your perambulatory repertoire (which is a phrase I use all the time.) Unless of course it means a tilting effect exacerbated by amphetamines.

Reduced time I do know about though. I am certainly a exponent of reduced responsibility as you well know and reduced time is why I am out now and able to add to this

katonas · Post by **katonas** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:28 pm

Smurfy Neil, please tell how you broke your arm in more detail so we can all try not to do the same thing. Glad to hear its healed.

Looking at the results from Sat bib 999's results must have been removed with 2nd place getting slightly less points, and the rest of the paddlers getting more. Perhaps there was some reason why 999 shouldn't have been included.

Neil H · Post by **Neil H** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:07 pm

Could it have been the devil with the number upside down

Neil H · Post by **Neil H** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:34 pm

But seriously if that is the case, does that not apply to Sunday as well.

Also there might be a knock on effect to C1 if that is the case. Maths isn't my forte. Anybody.............Munchkin you're an expert on that game?

katonas · Post by **katonas** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:17 pm

Sunday's results are also adjusted - my 731 points was increased to 760 as Jim just posted. I looked at the C1 div2 winner on Sat and the points on the summary differ so I guess these have been adjusted as well (I don't pretend to understand how). Wow, it must take ages compiling /checking results. Thankyou Jim and to everyone else involved.

Neil H · Post by **Neil H** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:24 pm

If the reason is that there are less people in the race. Might have a double interest here so I'll take a look but tomorrow. Unless somebody gets there first

Neil H · Post by **Neil H** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:14 am

I just looked at it my initial comment is that if your higher 875 points for Saturday has been derived from the fact that 999 has been removed from the equation, you should have 869 points
There were 24 paddlers including 999 and the 875 seems to have been based on 24 but if 99 is removed then surely it is 23 - hence 869???????????

Still looking at it re C1 though

Neil H · Post by **Neil H** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:18 am

would agree with adjusted figure for Sunday though as it look as the extra person has been removed and 760 is based on 7th from 25 which tallies up

Guess theat doesn't affect your promo off top of head

Neil H · Post by **Neil H** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:30 am

I believe C1 needs adjusting too for both days entirely based on less 1 racer - anybody confirm that?

As if you trust my maths you might as well call me George Osborn

oldschool · Post by **oldschool** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:36 am

Your right if K1m points are wrong then 3 other classes will be wrong; C1m C1w And c2. very annoying!

Munchkin · Post by **Munchkin** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:41 am

oldschool wrote:Your right if K1m points are wrong then 3 other classes will be wrong; C1m C1w And c2. very annoying!

Yes, given the numbers of competitors in C1 and C2 that weekend they may have been affected too.

The same happened for the HPP Div 3/4 and there were a number of reasons that happened:

1. Competitors not realising they had been promoted (and hence racing in the worng division); and
2. Organisers not promoting Div 4's that should have been promoted.

Other reasons could be unranked paddlers paddling in a division rather than realising they have to apply for ranking first (or race as an official and apply for ranking) etc etc.

Although "annoying" for you it is not the organisers fault and, having gone through the same thing this year, it is not for the organiser to fix. Thankfully we have well trained ranking compilers that do that job