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by Nick Penfold
Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:48 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: 6.1 ACM Voting
Replies: 30
Views: 6355

Re: 6.1 ACM Voting

As I said, I'm not sure the present arrangement is the best option: but it isn't more democratic to give a club of three influence equal to a club of 100.
by Nick Penfold
Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:41 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: 6.13 Entry Refundable 75/25
Replies: 5
Views: 1486

Re: 6.13 Entry Refundable 75/25

I suggest organiser's discretion, whether the entry can be replaced or not.
by Nick Penfold
Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:44 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: 6.2 Division 1 / 2 Competitions
Replies: 10
Views: 2406

Re: 6.2 Division 1 / 2 Competitions

Having Div 1 races that are Div 1 only has made things a lot clearer for course designers. Div 1/2s were always supposed to be set to a Div 1 standard, but many of us will remember courses where the Div 1s were badly short-changed, with a dumbed-down course and good water wasted, apparently because ...
by Nick Penfold
Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:25 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: 6.1 ACM Voting
Replies: 30
Views: 6355

Re: 6.1 ACM Voting

All clubs are NOT equal Proposal 6.1, "ALL clubs should have equal voting powers" sounds very reasonable until you realise that it gives a club with 3 ranked paddlers the same influence as one with a hundred or more. I'm puzzled by the preamble: it reads as though the writer hasn't understood the r...
by Nick Penfold
Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:26 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: Ranking and Promotion
Replies: 49
Views: 10207

Re: Ranking and Promotion

So you must get your case in early next month. No. (B 3.1) ...applications must be in writing and received by the 31st October. Email is OK, and John might stretch a point on the date for a good case, but there's not a lot of time left. Usually the only criteria accepted are long-term injury and wo...
by Nick Penfold
Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:11 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: Ranking and Promotion
Replies: 49
Views: 10207

Re: Ranking and Promotion

Jim W said "putting the lower capacity events early and the higher capacity events later in the year" Nice idea, but capacity is dictated mainly by water time, the time of year (shorter daylight hours, for example) and other factors outside our control. But thinking further: if Prem and Div 1 races...
by Nick Penfold
Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:44 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: Ranking and Promotion
Replies: 49
Views: 10207

Re: Ranking and Promotion

Windsor says "Should we agree now ideal numbers for Prem, Div 1 and Div 2, ensuring a pyramid..?" The Committee have been pursuing a pyramid for the past twelve years. Every year they review the division stucture and demote towards a target pyramid. We get closest to it in K1M, because the numbers ...
by Nick Penfold
Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:46 am
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: Ranking and Promotion
Replies: 49
Views: 10207

Re: Ranking and Promotion

James says "I know of no other sport in which a divisional system is used that has more promotees than demotees." I find that odd, because the other factor is dropout. Every year life happens and a substantial number of paddlers drop out, and drop off the lists. That's the (more or less) balancing ...
by Nick Penfold
Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:04 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: Ranking and Promotion
Replies: 49
Views: 10207

Re: Ranking and Promotion

Dave brads wrote: I really should check my facts! Andy is quite right that very few paddlers have been promoted as a result of a PU result. Having got Duncan to check the facts (amazing what he can get out of the database) they are that, out of all promotions from Div 2 to Div 1 this year: * 2 K1 w...
by Nick Penfold
Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:13 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: Ranking and Promotion
Replies: 49
Views: 10207

Re: Ranking and Promotion

JimW wrote: ...why are the div 2 races on harder water struggling? It may be because promotion to Div 1 is stripping Div 2 of the paddlers who would have relished a challenge. Across all classes, about 100 paddlers a year get up to Div 1, and they must logically be the keenest and most capable. Dav...
by Nick Penfold
Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:41 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: Ranking and Promotion
Replies: 49
Views: 10207

Re: Ranking and Promotion

I’m not sure Nick’s suggestion would make much difference. A vast majority of the Div 2 promotees have their best 5 results comfortably in their last 12 events. Acknowledged. Andy's proposed new promotion targets are quite a drastic shift. The trouble with changing targets is that it's hard to pred...
by Nick Penfold
Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:15 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: Ranking and Promotion
Replies: 49
Views: 10207

Re: Ranking and Promotion

After all, are we really 'Holding people back' as it may not be a bad thing to spend at least one season in each of the 4 divisions currently available. Yes, Steve, we are. To a great extent we are talking about teenagers whose development can be explosive: from time to time a complete newcomer mak...
by Nick Penfold
Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:02 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: C2 Structure for 2018 Season
Replies: 60
Views: 17557

Re: C2 Structure for 2018 Season

ref C34.12 it states - " If there are 10 or more starters a second prize will be awarded". It wasn't adhered to probably because it is just the C2 class. I doubt this was some sort of prejudice against C2s. I don't know the facts for this race, but scratch C2s in particular are very often last-minu...
by Nick Penfold
Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:05 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: Ranking and Promotion
Replies: 49
Views: 10207

Ranking and Promotion

Each year the sport gets top-heavy with more paddlers than we can cope with in Prem and Div 1, and worthwhile competition is stripped out of Div 2 and Div 3. The "easy" solution is to raise the promotion targets, but I don't think that's the best option. The real issue is that Div 2 and Div 3 paddle...
by Nick Penfold
Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:28 pm
Forum: Rants and Raves
Topic: Championship Format in Prem
Replies: 41
Views: 8283

Re: Championship Format in Prem

That would make the "superfinal" into a parade, and award places and points points out of all proportion to performance. Let's keep the race open and give the top J16s prizes as top J16s, and places in the final if they earn them.